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 Subject :NCNG #9 Tender Trucks.. 2011-01-14 11:47:11 
JDToumanian
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Topic : NCNG #9 Tender Trucks

Hi Group, A friend and I are building a pair of NCNG #9s in 5" scale / 15" gauge live steam. We have good drawings of the locomotive and access to a nearly identical locomotive (Death Valley RR #2, also a Baldwin, is the same except the length and wheelbase have been stretched 2 feet), but the tender is another matter. I have some books and drawings that have appeared in magazines, but detailed tender drawings, especially of the trucks, would be very helpful. We are leaning toward building the arch bar trucks that the tender carried late in it's life but if we had the Baldwin drop equalizer truck drawings, we may build them instead. Are the arch bar trucks the same as freight car trucks except with leaf springs instead of coils? I have seen glimpses of trucks in photos taken at the NCNG museum that appear to be the same, except they have coil springs.... Does anyone have pictures of these trucks at the museum? A trip to the museum is planned for this year... The 2nd pic is a rough mock up of the engine, using a piece of steel channel the correct length of the frame, to test the tracking of the engine around curves. The "engineer" looks almost scale! Thanks guys. Regards, Jon
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 Subject :Re:Nevada County Narrow Gauge DVD available.. 2010-05-04 00:43:54 
KevinSnow
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Topic : Nevada County Narrow Gauge DVD available

Thanks for the post on the video. I was able to find a copy here. http://www.catenaryvideo.com/sierra_shortline.html
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 Subject :Nevada County Narrow Gauge DVD available.. 2010-04-20 17:13:06 
ncngrr
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Topic : Nevada County Narrow Gauge DVD available

Hello, Sorry if this post appears twice. Catenry Video Productions has released a 60 minute video titled "SIERRA SHORTLINES" volume 2. It has about fifteen minutes on action on the NCNGRR, some fan trips, switching cars and sadly the abandonment of the line by #8 and crew. interview thoughout with KEN Yeo. Tom Milam
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 Subject :Re:Engine No. 1 builder's plates..... 2010-02-09 17:32:30 
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Topic : Engine No. 1 builder's plates...

I don't believe I have ever seen Engine no 1's builder's plates. Now, I know how you got the colors for the drawing for No. 1.
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 Subject :Engine No. 1 builder's plates..... 2010-02-08 19:06:40 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Engine No. 1 builder's plates...

...are in a private collection in Grass Valley!
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 Subject :Oilville loco fueling platform..... 2010-02-03 03:02:41 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Oilville loco fueling platform...

...is still visible in the weeds...
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 Subject :Little known railcar..... 2010-02-03 02:58:03 
Tim OBrien
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...Used by The Sacramento Bee to deliver papers. Photo at Grass Valley presumably in the 1920's...
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 Subject :Engine No. 5 tidbits..... 2010-02-03 07:35:02 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Engine No. 5 tidbits...

...Did you know that the cab on "Five" today came from scrapped Engine #7? It was installed in 1939 prior to sale to Universal Studios. Also shown here is "Five's" tender when we brought it back in 1985... The logo and number could still be seen beyond the rust and Hollywood paint...
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 Subject :NCNGRR Bus..... 2010-01-31 04:30:35 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : NCNGRR Bus...

....which augmented the trains and railbus to extend service to Auburn, Colfax, and Marysville during the late 1930's - early '40's. The body of this bus was found used as a chicken coop in a back yard near Nevada City!
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 Subject :Re:Grass Valley Machine shop..... 2010-01-30 12:45:38 
ncngrr5
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Topic : Grass Valley Machine shop...

Wow. Tim those are good photos of the Machine shops. As, I don't remember those buildings being I was still young when those buildings were torn down.
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 Subject :Re:Grass Valley Machine shop..... 2010-01-29 19:22:01 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Grass Valley Machine shop...

...Here's some more taken in 1982 just prior to what was left of the Kidder mansion being torn down. More to come as time permits...
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 Subject :Re:Grass Valley Machine shop..... 2010-01-25 15:37:57 
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Topic : Grass Valley Machine shop...

These are awesome photos! Thanks for the post.
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 Subject :Engine No. 5 returns..... 2010-01-25 03:55:40 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Engine No. 5 returns...

...to Nevada County from Universal Studios in 1985.
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 Subject :Grass Valley Machine shop..... 2010-01-25 03:58:58 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Grass Valley Machine shop...

...along with the blacksmith shop before being dismantled in 1984.
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 Subject :HOn3 LaBelle Boxcar.. 2010-05-08 21:51:24 
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Topic : HOn3 LaBelle Boxcar

Has anyone built one?
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 Subject :Re:Rollins Lake is low.. 2009-12-20 02:29:43 
Tim OBrien
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Topic : Rollins Lake is low

...That photo was taken about ten years ago (the slide was initially "backwards"...I've since corrected it;-) The standard gauge track closest has been removed, but the NCNG ties are still there. Yes indeed... Much of the old road bed is still visible along Hwy. 174.
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 Subject :Re:Rollins Lake is low.. 2009-12-19 13:03:56 
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Topic : Rollins Lake is low

How long ago did you take the pictures of the ties in Colfax? The right of way is still present in Chicago Park, near Lakewood Ln and Bear River pines.
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 Subject :Re:Rollins Lake is low.. 2009-12-19 16:51:11 
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...Excellent! 'Have enjoyed many wonderful excursions with Mr. Darr throughout the 1980s & 90s! He is among the very best when it comes to piecing and preserving this history. Now, if we can only get him on-line ;-) Here's a pic of some NCNG ties in the Colfax yard near the end of the line...
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 Subject :Re:Rollins Lake is low.. 2009-12-19 03:11:38 
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Topic : Rollins Lake is low

In the Photo Archive I just added an "NCNG Today" category. In there is a photo of the footing to Long Ravine bridge's Grass Valley end. Herman Darr was the guide and we took the photo on Dec-3-2009. At that time it was well above water but clearly goes under at times.

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 Subject :Re:Rollins Lake is low.. 2009-12-18 14:08:00 
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...The old line is most pronounced in the area of the (caved in) You Bet tunnel and along the ridge between the old Bear River bridge and Long Ravine. Some of the cuts and traces of ballast can still be seen, but you really have to look for them. The concrete footings for the Long Ravine viaduct (and old Hwy. 40 bridge) are still there. It's best seen when water level is down 75 to 100 feet or so... Now if you want a real treat - walk the right-away between Rollins lake and the two U.P. bridges that cross Hwy. 80 near Cape Horn. The old line and the bypass parallel each other for about 1/8th of a mile before coming together. We still find the small spikes on the old section which is ballasted w/ mine rock and shale, and larger spikes (for the heavier rail) on the new section ballasted with river rock. This area has largely remained unchanged since the track was removed in 1943. The attached photo shows the Long Ravine Viaduct (crossing Hwy. 40) from the cab of engine no. 5. The level of Rollins Lake is near the same as the top of the bridge today...
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